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Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:12 pm
by ficool2
I cry ;-;

I still plan to make the level portal free forever. However, you will have to buy the game to play the story mode and to create levels. If you dislike this idea, remember the old flash player version of the game will remain free, forever.

I remember in one post Runouw said that the level designer will ALWAYS be free and only you have to pay for the Story mode ONLY ;-;

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:20 pm
by FrozenFire
Tbh, I think it's fair, because Runouw and his team will waste a lot of time and money to make the game, and it's very sad when you just spend the time of your life just make something free.

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:52 pm
by lulzaraptor
Nothing is 100% set in stone yet when it comes to pricing besides the facts that:
- There will be a free version
- There will be a paid version

In the current build, the game can load and display levels from the flash game. So I guess you could use the flash player level designer. However there are some major differences between how levels are handled since the engine is a 100% redo.

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:55 pm
by Niicola
Couldn't ads solve the problem? Like you know, you give an ad-full version of the game to those who can't afford it (Paying through Internet is a problem for some people).

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:18 pm
by ficool2
niicola wrote:Couldn't ads solve the problem? Like you know, you give an ad-full version of the game to those who can't afford it (Paying through Internet is a problem for some people).


I would like this, I don't care about Ad's unless it literally is a 30 second ad covering your screen ._.

I only want to be able to use the level designer....

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:53 am
by lulzaraptor
ficool2 wrote:I would like this, I don't care about Ad's unless it literally is a 30 second ad covering your screen ._.

I only want to be able to use the level designer....

We have not dismissed that idea. Some time before release, we'll run some numbers and decide what the best route is economically.

For example, it would make sense to include the level designer in the free version if
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(average ad revenue per person) * (number of free users) >= (% effort contained by level designer) * (cost of ad-free version) * (number of paid users)


niicola wrote:Couldn't ads solve the problem? Like you know, you give an ad-full version of the game to those who can't afford it (Paying through Internet is a problem for some people).

I think prepaid cards work through online transactions. It is also possible to buy Steam credit from GameStop, Target, and other retailers if we do go about using Steam.

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:27 pm
by FrozenFire
A poll to see who's going to pay and who wants to get a bunch of ads in the ass, maybe?

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:38 am
by lulzaraptor
FrozenFire wrote:A poll to see who's going to pay and who wants to get a bunch of ads in the ass, maybe?


As ideal as that sounds, there are a few flaws with that logic.

1) This game will have a different market. LL CH1/CH2 were marketed towards the Newgrounds audience. Therefore "ads in the ass" was acceptable and expected. You can't do that if you want to be professional.

2) We literally cannot afford it. The entire team is taking a gamble with the hope that this game will sell. Just to give you an idea of the cost of development: If all 4 employees were to work at their respective hourly rates, we'd blow through all the funds acquired from SM63 + LLch1 + LLch2 in about a week.

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:30 am
by awesomerandomgamer99
If you choose to sell this instead of it being free, I WILL BUY IT!!! :)

I know the Steam Greenlight fee is 100 dollars or something, but would it cost more to post Ch.3 as well as the other 2 games, even for free?

Re: What's known about chapter 3 so far

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:56 am
by lulzaraptor
awesomerandomgamer99 wrote:If you choose to sell this instead of it being free, I WILL BUY IT!!! :)

I know the Steam Greenlight fee is 100 dollars or something, but would it cost more to post Ch.3 as well as the other 2 games, even for free?


We still haven't figured out how we're going to do the pricing model. Ch1+Ch2 HD with Ch3 might be bundled as a single game or appear as DLC. I can say it is less likely that we'll put all three titles on the same market at once since we want people to buy "ch3", not Ch1+Ch2.

FYI: "Ch3" is more or less an indev name; the current storyline is not directly connected to the previous two titles. We'll probably give a better name when we have the eventual story preview post.